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DJALILI: I've always been uncomfortable making it in a different country before you've made it in your own country.K. there were a lot of very very good people - Caroline Rhea - their careers went on and did great but I went back to Britain because I had my TV show there They gave me something called the "Omid Djalili Show" and that kind of preoccupied me RATH: I wonder if you can describe the show a little bit because you play Iranian characters and British characters It's kind of a whole - it's a wide range DJALILI: You can't really compare that kind of thing with any show But I think the nearest show you might have had here was the "Dave Chappelle Show" which is on Comedy Central which is stand-up sketches little items here and there My English side really loves the royal family and my Iranian side hates me for this It doesn't (unintelligible) always chips in if I ever meet royalty I met Prince Charles recently I said Your Royal Highness it's a real absolute honor to perform for you you dirty filthy Western imperialist (LAUGHTER) RATH: Something interesting about the success of your program is that similar thing happened - I think it was probably about 10 years ago in Britain - no actually more like 15 years ago There was a British - BBC program called "Goodness Gracious Me". DJALILI: Yes I know those guys RATH: .which was Indians DJALILI: Yes RATH: And I thought about - I thought at the time well there's no way that this'll hit a wider audience because they're making fun of very specific things about Indians that only Indians will get And it was a huge success DJALILI: Yeah Huge success Yes RATH: And similarly with your program you're making fun of I think very particular Iranian characters at times. DJALILI: Yes RATH: .but it resonates with people DJALILI: I think there was a niche in the market because you know the more multicultural we've become And certainly in British culture as I'm sure it's the same with American culture we warm to cultures where people can make fun of themselves I couldn't abide by all my Iranian brethren When somebody say: We're from Persia No we're not Iranian We're from Persia As if that makes a big difference And people say: Oh you're from Persia Oh you mean next to Assyria Mesopotamia and Thrace (LAUGHTER) DJALILI: What a noble race I mean we speak like a Persian cat Yes a sweet Persian cat yes There's no Iranian cat No Iranian cat There's a bomb under the body warmer (LAUGHTER) DJALILI: With what happened with awful things in the - with terrorism there was a lot of mistrust So there was a lot of I suppose reciprocity towards a Middle Eastern person who can maybe be a bridge between East and West You can tell I'm a very very British person but I've kept my roots quite strong I still speak Farsi I find Arabs hilarious Like whenever you go on YouTube and watch some of the greatest soccer players like Lionel Messi scoring a goal the Arab commentaries they say (foreign language spoken) And the translation is they say Messi is a stealer of arts He is the creator of solutions Messi has the eye of the griffin If Messi was a pre-existent soul made manifest in this life as the return of Jesus Christ is the football boots I tell you if Messi was gay I look the other way (Foreign language spoken) They're very passionate RATH: All of a sudden American sportscasters seem very very bland (LAUGHTER) RATH: I'm amazed you could do that I'm curious - you mentioned Dave Chappelle DJALILI: Yes RATH: And you know how he left his program walked away from it And I'm wondering if you've felt the same feeling that caused him to walk away which is that - I mean you do these Iranian characters and it's on a show in Britain and Dave Chappelle got uncomfortable because he was doing these black characters and he felt the white audience was laughing a little bit too hard and maybe at the expense DJALILI: Yeah That's always a consideration It's a very very thin line I don't just worry about you know upsetting the Iranians I also worry about the Baha'i community I'm a Baha'i I'm not a Muslim I'm Baha'i And the Baha'i faith is such a sweet faith You know the Baha'i's are so sweet that even hippies in San Francisco mug the Baha'i's regularly (LAUGHTER) DJALILI: You know that's how sweet they are But I've got to be careful not to upset my Baha'i friends as well So it is - there's a high pressure But for you - you need to have certain principles And for me it's always to remain authentic remain to my true to my own comedy voice And if you do that then you'll be fine RATH: Have you - has there been any kind of a negative reaction though from the Iranian community in Britain or elsewhere DJALILI: I suppose Iranians have pushed me of being some kind of acceptable face Because even when 9/11 happened even my own neighbors - they knew me they liked me - they started looking at me suspiciously I didn't go anywhere A lot of my gigs were cancelled And I actually thought my career was over RATH: Wow DJALILI: It was very strange And I had just won an award the Time Out magazine comedy award And what they do they put you up in a big West End theater and everybody was going nuts People were giving their tickets back And I felt I had to make a stand I said: I'm making a stand here you know I know that a lot of Indian guys have been beaten some Sikh guys have been killed So I'm going to make a stand to do a comedy show here for you tonight And there was a big round of applause And I said: I want you all to know my real name is Sven I'm from Gothenburg in Sweden I got nothing to do with those creeps So that was - and the laugh I remember It was just - it's a very basic joke but just the laugh of relief was extraordinary Then I thought OK we're back on track It's too soon to laugh too much but we can try and make sense of it through comedy And I'm not saying you can ever make fun of suffering That's completely wrong But I think now we're ready to have - we have Middle Eastern comedians now and they're very much embraced by the American community And I hope that what we say has some depth and has some value RATH: Omid Djalili pleasure talking with you DJALILI: Thank you very much It's been really good I have - I really hope that people embrace me to the bosom of America Copyright 2013 NPR All rights reserved No quotes from the materials contained herein may be used in any media without attribution to NPR This transcript is provided for personal noncommercial use only pursuant to our Terms of Use Any other use requires NPR's prior permission Visit our permissions page for further information NPR transcripts are created on a rush deadline by a contractor for NPR and accuracy and availability may vary This text may not be in its final form and may be updated or revised in the future Please be aware that the authoritative record of NPR's programming is the audio which croons Bob Marley tunes while the robot within the box prepares coffee from freshly ground beans. timing and other such factors to a T. all available at and at the stations' web sites. 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